[Global Times-Global Network Reporter Bai Yunyi Chen Qingqing] According to the WHO spokesman, on March 16, the International Expert Group of the New Crown Virus Traceability may release a research report in China next week.Although the main conclusions, discovery and suggestions of the China-WHO’s joint traceability research have been announced at a joint press conference held in Wuhan on February 9th, the details of the next specific traceability direction, planning and other details need to be needed to remain yet.It is further clarified in the full version of research report.In this background,Liang Wannian, the leader of the China-WHO Joint Expert Group, accepted an exclusive interview with the Global Times on the 17th to respond to why the joint research report failed to release, whether the conflict disputes between China and foreign countries, the original important data acquisition, and the “laboratory leak”Whether it has been completely excluded from multiple sensitive issues.

Liang Wannian said that although Chinese and foreign experts sometimes argued with some issues during the joint traceability research process, they are normal discussions on scientific issues. The two sides highly recognize each other’s professionalism and scientific spirit.It is the consensus of Chinese and foreign experts.He also responded that the full version of research reports involved a lot of content, and it took a certain amount of time to draft, and the politics of some politicians in the world’s politicians also interfered with international anti -epidemic cooperation.As for the “laboratory leak” hypothesis, he reiterated again, “((this hypothesis) is impossible”, “will not carry out traceability work in the future”-The consensus of the WHO Joint Expert Group.

Why did the research report have not been released?Strive for completeness, rigorous and scientific content, it takes a certain time

Global Times: From January 14th to February 10th, WHO and China jointly conducted a joint traceability research in Wuhan.As the leader of Chinese experts, how do you feel about this joint traceability work?Has it achieved the expected goal?

Liang Wannian:New coronary virus pneumonia is the most widely influential global epidemic disease in the past century.Up to now, the new coronary pneumonia’s epidemic is still an unsolved mystery. The purpose of finding the answer to the question is to prevent the occurrence of major epidemics in the future.The decision of the World Health Conference clearly states that the purpose of traceability is to prevent animals and humans from being infected by the virus again, avoiding the formation of new people and animals, and a greater risk of reducing the occurrence and spreading of common diseases and animal diseases.

This time, as the leader of the Chinese expert group, I have 4 feelings. One is that both experts adhere to the scientific principles and the spirit of openness.Trust, close cooperation, and fully communicate with sincerity, and coordinate the work of the global traceability part of the work of China; the third is that the schedule of the traceability work is full, and the horses are not stopped. Experts are very hard.EssenceFourth, the research results of the joint traceability of the Chinese and foreign experts are the consensus of Chinese and foreign experts.

The traceability of the epidemic is never a simple task, and scientists need to work together for a long time.It is difficult for us to send a clear answer to all questions through about 30 scientists through the China -WHO for one month.These issues require scientists to continue to study where the new crown virus is infected with people and how to spread to Wuhan.It should be said that through the joint efforts of the joint expert group, the two sides have formed some important consensus this time to open a good start for global traceability work.First, the first diagnosis patient’s onset time of the Wuhan epidemic was determined to be on December 8th. Disease monitoring, early case search and other work did not find earlier new crown pneumonia cases.Second, the South China Seafood Market played a certain role in the occurrence and development of the epidemic and developed in the process of development, and played an important role in the discovery of the epidemic. Third, the virus is the natural origin.It still has the maximum possibility; the fourth is that the new type of communication method of cold chain spreads an important role in the origin and spread of the epidemic;Fifth, the possibility of the epidemic caused by the leakage of the laboratory is extremely impossible.

Global Times: It is currently nearly a month since the joint research of the joint expert group of the China -WHO’s new crown virus traceability.Is this because Chinese experts and international experts have a large difference in reports or other reasons?

Liang Wannian: In the joint study of the source, the joint expert group established three groups: epidemiology, animals and environment, and molecular traceability according to the needs of traceability work.On the basis of the nearly a month of field visits and joint discussion and analysis, Chinese and foreign experts reached an agreement on the main discovery and results of the joint research report and the recommendations of the next steps, and then jointly released on February 9th.I introduced it at the meeting.The main research results have been fully introduced at the joint conference. These conclusions are formed by the joint expert group repeatedly through scientific methods, reflecting everyone’s consensus, which is objective, scientific and authoritative.At present, the joint expert group of China and foreign countries is drafting the full version of the research report.Because it involves a lot of content, as scientists, we must maximize the content of the report, rigorous and scientific, so this process takes a certain timeEssence

Recently, some politicians and media internationally internationally have their own self -interest, disregard the scientific facts, insist on the politicalization of the scientific issues of tracing the source, and make a description of the scientific conclusions and report content of our joint expert group. This behavior is not only the work of our scientists.Very disrespect also hinders international anti -epidemic cooperation.The international community, especially the scientific community, should jointly maintain the scientific spirit and carry out traceability cooperation on the basis of respecting science and respect.

Have a conflict in the expert group?Can’t get the original data?Fake!

Global Times: We see some reports that there have been major disputes and even conflicts in the work of the joint expert group.Is this a fact?Can you introduce the specific situation?What kind of working relationship does Chinese and foreign experts establish?

Liang Wannian: The experts of this joint expert group come from more than 10 countries around the world. There are different backgrounds and research areas, but one thing is that we are all scientists and adhere to the scientific principles and open spirit.Even if we sometimes have different views on some issues, even arguing, but this is a normal discussion on scientific issues, and the two parties have highly recognized each other’s professional quality and scientific spirit.EssenceSome experts have previously participated in some international conferences, but they are not familiar with. This joint research has made them understand each other more deeply and have become good colleagues and friends.At the beginning of this joint study, we formulated the “four common” principles, that is, to jointly formulate plans, jointly investigated, drafted reports, and issued them together.Under these principles, experts from both sides respect each other and treat each other, and have completed the joint research together.As for some people deliberately speculating the so -called “conflict”, my foreign colleagues have clearly said that this is not their true feelings at all.

Global Times: We noticed that some countries such as the United States said that the joint expert group was limited in the process of joint research, unable to obtain original data, nor could they contact the people they wanted to see.Is this the case at that time?

Liang Wannian: During the joint research, our expert group visited 9 units including Jinyintan Hospital, South China Seafood Market, and Wuhan Virus, and with medical staff, laboratory personnel, scientific researchers, market managers, merchants, community work, community work, community work, community work, community work, community workRehabilitation patients, families of sacrifice medical staff, ordinary people, etc. have conducted discussions.These lists were proposed by international experts of the joint expert groupEssenceAt the beginning of the year, our domestic epidemic had some rebounds, and the pressure of prevention and control in various places was relatively large, but the local government of China and Wuhan still overcome difficulties and strive to meet the requirements of international experts.

Regarding data issues, after we formally formulated a work task book with the World Guard experts in July last year, Chinese experts began to comprehensively carry out the collection of relevant data collection.At the beginning of the joint research of Wuhan, the joint expert group further clarified on the basis of the task book, and jointly formulated a work plan to determine valuable data types and data items.In order to complete the difficult tasks of scientific cooperation and exchanges, China convened relevant units and hundreds of scientists to do their best to collect, organize and analyze data.

In response to the original data that needs special attention, the Chinese side showed the WHO expert group one by one, such as the database of the early case database and the on -site flow table, etc., Chinese and foreign experts fully discussed the data analysis ideas and phased results, and further supplemented the adjustment of the data analysis framework., Re -analyze the data and re -produce the analysis results.Regarding the original data of some cases, due to the privacy of patients, according to Chinese law, we cannot let international experts copy and bring out the country, and international experts also fully understand this.

The laboratory hypothesis has not been ruled out?The expert group agreed that in the future, we will not conduct traceability work on laboratory hypotheses

Global Times: At a press conference held by the joint expert group on February 9, experts said that the laboratory virus leaked was “extremely impossible.”However, the Director -General of the WHO Tan Desai said that all assumptions are still open and need to be further studied and analyzed.In other words, the laboratory hypothesis has not been ruled out.What do you think about this?

Liang Wannian: The origin of the virus has multiple possibilities.In this joint traceability study, our joint expert team visited the Hubei Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Wuhan Virus Research Institute and other institutions.Frank scientific communication.After field visits and in -depth understanding in China,The expert group agreed that it is extremely impossible for the laboratory incident to trigger a virus, so in the future to trace the source of related work, it will not work in this regard. Unless there is a new evidence to prove that this situation may occur, it may occur, and it may be possible, and it may be possible.Will be proposed again.